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A curious believer has sent me an email with some questions in it. She is sincere in her questions and I have taken a stab below at answering her honestly. Her questions are broad though and I do not want to speak for all Atheists so in the interest of fairness I will post her questions and my answers here so others may comment as well.

We will call our writer Kelly. Kelly writes the following:

I am a Christian but I feel very uncomfortable “evangelizing” to people. I cringe when fellow Christians tell me they’ve brought people to Christ. I believe that the omnipotent and omnipresent Lord sort of has control over that situation. For them to take credit for someone else’s conversion kind of makes me chuckle. However, I am equally disturbed by atheists who feel the need, as you say, to evangelize their unbelief. Also, I’m of the belief that if you start a conversation with me about religion then I get to participate. Unfortunately, I’ve had the bad experience of being told that I shouldn’t push my religion on them. Huh??…….

My experience with atheists and agnostics has been negative.

Truth be told, I can accept that you don’t believe in God. I just wanted to be accepted for believing in God. Why must I be considered stupid, naive or at worst an extremist? Isn’t this a form of prejudice/discrimination? Not every Christian is a screaming, judgmental evangelist who beats unbelievers with a Bible. Conversely, not every atheist is a screaming, belligerent college student with a superiority complex.

No doubt, religious and political beliefs are often passionate and deeply held convictions based upon each individual experience.

These are some questions I have:

Do atheists feel a need to disprove the validity of Christianity?

What do you care what Christians believe about your afterlife? You don’t believe it. Isn’t that all that matters?

If a majority of Americans claim that they are Christian or of some other religion then why shouldn’t we have a National Day of Prayer?

Has anyone been arrested or persecuted for not praying recently?

Why are atheist offended by “The National Day of Prayer”, “In God We Trust” National Monuments with the “Ten Commandments?”

**These are sincere attempts on my part to understand. I’m not being sarcastic. I look forward to your response.

Here is my response:

First of all allow me to say that I do not speak on behalf of all Atheists, I can speak for myself only, I will allow other Atheists to speak to their approach.

Do atheists feel a need to disprove the validity of Christianity?

Only insomuch as the validity of Christianity is used as the basis for judgment against Atheists. Not just Atheists might I add but all other non-Christian religions. I do not care what you believe or do not believe. I don’t care if you serve a Chihuahua in a tuxedo, a Unicorn, or an omnipotent being. Your beliefs are yours and yours alone and you have every right to have them. I write about Christianity because it the single greatest controlling factor in the nation in which I live.

What do you care what Christians believe about your afterlife? You don’t believe it. Isn’t that all that matters?

I don’t care what Christians believe about my afterlife provided they keep their opinion to themselves. I do care when their opinion causes my every day life to be disrupted. It matters.

If a majority of Americans claim that they are Christian or of some other religion then why shoudn’t we have a National Day of Prayer?

If a majority of Americans want a day of prayer they should have at it. They should work amongst themselves and organize the event. Just like Gay pride day, or fathers rights rallies, or the truckers organizing events in DC. I am 100% in favor of your right to pray. What I am not in favor of is a government sponsored event advocating any religious belief. This is not rocket science, The United states government is a representative of ALL people. What if the government had a national White skin day? It is true to say that the majority of Americans are white skinned, would that be OK?

Has anyone been arrested or persecuted for not praying recently?

Arrested? Not that I am aware of at least not in America, persecuted? ABSOLUTELY! Atheism has been demonized (sorry but I can’t come up with a better word). Open Atheists have many challenges with believers including challenges at work and other social and economic challenges. This is the reason that so many Atheist blogs and writers do so under assumed names. We are forced to protect our identities. Many of these blogs receive violent, threatening emails on a regular basis. The big name Athiests – Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris and the like receive regular threats against their lives, why? Becuase they don’t believe in God and have the courage to say so in public.

I appreciate that you threw in “Recently” because this illustrates that you are at least somewhat familiar with your religious history and the massacre of so many in the name of so little.

Why are atheist offended by “The National Day of Prayer”, “In God We Trust” National Monuments with the “Ten Commandments?”

Again these slogans and activities are not the role of the federal government of the United States. If these slogans were concerning the superiority of Men, or the superiority of a particular race their meaning becomes different to you this is how I view the meaning of these slogans and activities.

I hope that helps you understand a little bit better. Further reading on my blog on this subject can be found in the links below.

You ask me why I care
Do Unbelievers Evangelize?


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This is Richard Dawkins reading from his book “The God Delusion” at Randolph-Macon Woman’s College in November of 2006.  The best bits are at the end when he does his Q&A session with the audience.


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untitled1As if her self righteous ramblings about believing in the commandments of the Bible despite her scantily clad attire weren’t bad enough, we now find out that she has also posed for nude pictures

Carrie had this to say about brandishing her boobs on the internet:

“I am a Christian, and I am a model,” Prejean said in a statement released overnight to the media. “Models pose for pictures, including lingerie and swimwear photos. Recently, photos taken of me as a teenager have been released surreptitiously to a tabloid Web site that openly mocks me for my Christian faith. I am not perfect, and I will never claim to be.”

Well, bravo Carrie at least you don’t think you are perfect. Note that she does not say that the pictures are wrong or biblically incorrect as she is so worried about being with regards to same sex marriage:

“It’s not about being politically correct; for me, it was being biblically correct,”

I guess in Carries version of “biblically correct” does not include Matthew 5:28 where Jesus admonishes:

“But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”

Carrie is single handedly sending thousands of people to hell in her swimsuit, now that we know she’s naked too…well….. Just forget it we are doomed. I wonder how Carrie will answer God on judgment day when he asks her about the role she played in creating lust in the eyes of millions of men and therefore forced them to commit adultery. Will God say “Well done thou good and faithful servant”? I think not.

Carrie is as Bath-sheba undressing for her bath on the roof top for all the men to watch. Her answer that she is a model and models are required to have pictures taken in lingerie and swimwear is not likely to sway Yahweh.

Actually now that I am in full possession of the fact in regards to her hypocrisy I’m not all that interested in seeing her topless photos. But I will track them down and look at them anyway just because I know it will make her unhappy…..I am half tempted to post them, but I don’t want an adult rating on my blog.


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That’s right. According to the Bible your kids are hell bound where they will be tortured for all eternity. Poor 4 year old Johnny died and now he is burning in hell. It makes me sad to say, but it is not my religion and I did not make the rules.

I was perusing comments over at Proud Atheists this morning and came across a comment that stated children are exempt from God’s judgment until they are old enough to accept or reject God.

Putting aside the entire host of additional questions that pop up about mental capacity and where the line is drawn in development to make such a decision, those who cannot see or hear etc…. I want to discuss further the idea that God somehow has made any such claim that children are exempt.

It has traditionally been accepted (at least by evangelicals) that because no sin can enter into heaven:

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelations 21:8


And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life. Revelations 21:27

And because of original sin most notably the sin of Adam :

“For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive.” 1 Corinthians 15:22

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:12

Unless the parents of the child are “saved” then the children of those parents are hell bound along with the parents. However, if the parents are “saved” then the children are covered through the parents salvation until the child reaches the “age of accountability”.

This is a useful tool when evangelizing. If you cannot appeal to a persons sense of self preservation then you can always appeal to their desire to protect their children.

The idea that your sins are damming your children has support, biblically, with the concept of “the sins of the father”. And sin being a generational offense.

“You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,” Exodus 20:5

“You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, and on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,” Deuteronomy 5:9

“Then the Lord passed by in front of him and proclaimed, “The Lord, the Lord God, compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in lovingkindness and truth; who keeps lovingkindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin; yet He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations.” Exodous 34:6-7

The Bible has clearly established that no sin can enter into heaven and that the sins of ones parents (well the bible is very sexist so the sins of ones father) are passed down to their children. Thus a child born in sin is also a sinner and cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven.

However, the bible also states that because of Adam’s deed everyone is born a sinner and as we just stated cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven.

The solution to get to heaven is a deliberate act of contrition and belief:

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me John 14:6

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16 – 18.

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3

There are no Bible verses (at least none that I can think of) that support the idea directly that if a parent is covered by the blood of the lamb then too shall the parents’ offspring so long as the parents remain in obedience to God until the child reaches the “Age of accountability”. There are also no scriptural references to the “age of accountability, it is a fabrication. I suppose Christendom thought it to harsh to inform it’s members that since all are born sinners, all go to hell until one actually receives salvation through a deliberate act of contrition and faith.

On the contrary, as we have seen, there are plenty of verses that support the idea that all are born in sin and that sin cannot enter into heaven. This quite clearly states that your children are hell bound. No amount of applying logic to the situation and asking why God would send little children to hell will change that fact. To ask such questions makes you an Atheist. We know that God has no issues with putting damnation on children, he did it many many times in the bible.

The truth is that to accept the God of the bible is to accept that your kids are going to hell, where they will burn with fire and brimstone and the nashing of teeth and all the other delights God has planned.


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It is time for the Friday Awards. This will be a weekly installment where I will recap activity on the AP as well as point you to some of my favorite articles around the blogosphere I have read in the past week.

Thanks to my visitors and commentators. This week’s growth has been fun to watch and it is good to hear your comments as well.

~AP~ Blog awards

Top Post this week: Atheism, Morality and Biblical Influence – They Mesh

Top Referrer: The Atheist Spot

Best Comment: Shamelessly Atheist on Atheisim, Morality and Biblical Influence – They Mesh thanks for posting Shameless

Most Comments: George – Welcome George!

Also this week saw the first opposing view on this blog in the The Resurrection of Jesus – Really? article. Thanks for posting and welcome Bill.  Bill was thoughtful and articulate in our discussion.

Blogosphere this week Awards

Entertaining: This PowerPoint Presentation from Evolved and Rational about the Quiverfull-Movement

Most Bone headed: The Internet Pastor continuing his tirade about Atheists being cannibals.

LOL: I actually laughed out lout when I read this at Evolved and Rational

Poignant: This article at Unreasonable faith about Ria Ramkissoon

Thoughtful: Sisyphusfragment talking about Atheist Pride

Commentary: Examiner’s article on the family guy episode

Friday Question:

Do you have deistic faith? Why or why not?


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